Before getting scammed, you need to know a few things before buying an Olde English. You need to understand their possible health conditions and requirements for a long life. Become a savvy buyer and a great owner using this arcade themed buying guide.
Pricing for OEB (Olde English Bulldogges) is largely dictated by age. The sex and color will have an impact but nothing like frenchies or other bulldog breeds. We've researched recent prices post-pandemic and color just doesn't impact price enough to report on. The real driver of price was the age of the dog. Small pups are obviously more desirable to buyers. We found out of all the bulldog breeds that the OEB is abandoned 10x more than it's smaller relatives so please check your local shelters. We're guessing that buyers simply don't realize that this dog is not a little frenchie or have been miss-sold an English bulldog.
Very often poor breeders are deliberately advertising their dogs in a misleading way. They're intentionally listing them as "English bulldog" and not making it clear that the dog is an Olde English. This helps the seller increase profits but it's damaging to the dog as the buyer does not realize they're buying a totally different dog. By reading this page the differences should become more obvious.
+1 Year Old
950
850
700
Unsold 14 Weeks
1350
1200
1000
Genuine Sellers
1600
1450
1200
Pick Of The Litter
2000
1800
1500
Pretending To Be English Bulldog
2700
2400
2000
Whether you search Reddit or Google you'll find the consensus is always go with grain free kibble because bulldogs react better with farts, runny stools and rashes. The only thing you REALLY need to know about picking the best grain free kibble is that they're not all equal. Some makers will make a premium kibble, nice nutrition and charge a little extra and others will go the "budget" route. These budget makers use filler foods your dog won't digest or will need loads more to get the right amount of calories in per day. In the end they will cost the same because you'll have to feed more of the cheap stuff. We have an entire page just about this and it's a must read for any new owners.
If you believe the earth is flat and big pharma is out to get you then you'll love the "feeding raw" myth. Backed by zero science, no medical studies, this loada crap has killed thousands of dogs and even harmed children. Raw meat is not nutritious to a modern dog, in fact it's full of e.Coli , salmonella and a string of other bacteria that will show up in your dogs autopsy. Feeding raw meat to a dog is a miserable act to save money and the practice should be made illegal.
As a new owner you will stress intensely over this one, I know the horrible feeling all too well. The bag should have clear directions on it, it's usually measured in standard cup sizes. In english that is 128g or 4.5oz. Bulldogs are notoriously greedy eaters and will continue to eat all day if given the chance. Don't let their greediness scare you, just follow the cup amounts and in tandem weigh your dog weekly, once the dog isn't losing any weight everything is OK, you want to see a steady increase over time in line with the dogs size. Other issues like worms could affect the dogs weight so don't dwell just on the food, if in any doubt chat to your vet, a health check isn't expensive.
The OEB bulldogge is an easy to train dog that wants to learn tricks and rules. You'll find it's not like the other bulldogs that hide whenever they see a leash or refuse to get up on a walk.
The OEB is a bit like the pitbull you seen in the tv show little rascals years ago. It wants to play with the kids when they come home from school and run around with them and just be apart of the family. It's a team player and considered to be very loyal and obedient to it's owner.
It would be easy to think these dogs are aggressive based off the fact that they were bred to look like the dogs that fought bulls back in the 1800's, but these aren't those dogs. Those dogs that fought back then are extinct now. I can't legally stand over every OEB because I can't know how it'll be treated, but understand their tough looks doesn't mean they're nasty.
It was hard for me to find bad points online while researching for this, and that's because the OEB or leavitt bulldog was bred to be an upgrade. It does still fart and slobber like a bulldog but the bad points were addressed and this is now regarded as an all round great dog. Small things like the bulldog overbite is gone, cutting out dental problems.
You'll also notice that the dog isn't obese, so the better bone structure should be cutting out hip and spinal operations, while improving the dogs tolerance to warmer climates, longer walks with the owner and cleanliness of skin folds. This is a dog you can do things with as an owner whereas the other smaller bulldogs are destined for a life on your couch asleep.
I'm very certain by now you've gone to Google images and typed in "Olde English Bulldogge" and enjoyed some pics but also thought "hmmmm... these results aren't very good... all these dogs look a little different".. am I right? Course I am. That's because hoards of people are selling mongrels as "old english" or something similar to try and get good money for their pups.
So how does a buyer protect oneself from this? To start, understand the breed comes from America, from a breeder called "David Leavitt" who has published a standard and created a registry for his original line of dogs. I took an image from their website oebkc.com to show you the standard guideline and how their dog should look.
According to the "Leavitt Bulldog Association" the OEB dog is now just a style of dog. The idea was to bring back the look of the old bulldog back in the day when bull baiting was legal. However some clever folks realized that if they have mongrel English bulldogs they could pass them off as OEB or some may have genuinely attempted to create their own new line of OEB.
Some kennel clubs decided to recognize these dogs, so in theory we're just at the start of a new generation of dog. I would say that once your dog has proper paperwork and it's a healthy dog then enjoy. Every line has to begin somewhere, and for many people the OEB style is an improvement on the fat and heavy breathing english bulldog. At least now you can identify B.S from a dishonest breeder. The point of writing this was to prevent you from being fooled into paying more unnecessarily.
It simply doesn't matter anymore, but if you want to be a geek about it then know that some kennel clubs will accept any dog they see, they just want the registry fees. In fact no kennel club inspects the dogs so don't rely on them for anything. Original lines by David himself were registered into the OEBKC which in 2014 got merged with the UKC registry. So anything that is NOT directly from those clubs has little chance of being an original line. These dogs are often found in rescues so before buying an olde english bulldogge give your local pound a call.
A well maintained Olde English bulldog should see +14 years. The internet is full of claims that go from 10-18 years but 14 years seems to be about right. Like a car if its looked after it will last you longer, so get the walks in, quality kibble and bring it to the vets when an issue shows up. Don't leave your dog isolated alone or exposed to bad weather, it's painful to see. Look for breeders that screen for potential health issues in studs and females, and offer guarantees on their pups.
English bulldogs are lazy and fat, and Olde English bulldogges are athletic and muscular. The olde Bulldogge is confident, breaths great and is considered an updated version of the fat English descendant. The breeds in our opinion are too far apart to make any reasonable comparison, if you want a couch buddy and you don't walk much then the chubby English bulldog would suit you great, they love to chill watching Netflix, the Olde English needs a big garden, play a lot more fetch and go places with you, your lifestyle is really the big separator in buying / adopting here, your not taking the English bulldog on a hill walk now are you? Both dogs may share a lot of genes but when you're living with one you need it to fit your lifestyle, not Instagram, otherwise it would be cruel.
Between 40-50cm tall and 25-35kg heavy. Males are bigger, you should use the parents of the pups to gauge expected heights as there is not enough uniformity in this breed. From researching the topic we found that no association had an exact size or weight regarding the Olde English bulldogs breed standard, only descriptions of desirable traits such a skull shape, overbite etc.
They're no more aggressive than any other dog. Bulldogs are lazy and docile and don't have traits of aggression regardless of their genetic origin. Did you know the dog that bites the most is a scared dog? Avoid buying or adopting overly timid and scared dogs as they're far more likely to bite someone in panic. A confident dog doesn't snap nearly as often because they feel assured.
The average Olde English Bulldog will "grow up the first year, and out the second year" all dogs are different so some may still gain height up to 18 months, but not by much. After 1 year hits the dog is no longer a puppy and enters a stage of building muscle and widening out. A quick image search will show you examples of full grown dog.
Huge differences, the Olde bulldog is much bigger, stronger, breaths better and costs half as much. The english bulldog we know is a fat, short, lazy and ignorant dog which dedicates its life to sleeping and avoiding walks.
Both are attempts at improving the English bulldog breed. The Victorian is the least popular and thus rarer. Breeders look to charge more money for this rarity. There is no way to tell a "genuine" in either breed, as the bloodlines have not been well maintained enough to trace their roots. Judge the dogs on the quality of their breeder, evidence of good care and recommendations from previous buyers.
The dogs are very similar, the American bulldog was created from the Olde bulldogge. The bulldogge being an upgraded modern version of the pudgy English bulldog. The American is better suited towards farms and sports than the Olde. The history of the American is very complex with many variations / styles. Long story short after WW2 some guys wanted to recreate what they remembered as a great ranch dog, suited to catching pigs etc. We now have the "American" and it's seen in many shows.
They're the cheapest bulldog you can buy. Reason being the dogs live long, have large litters and are not suitable for city center high rise living so they're pricing reflects that, big supply and smaller demand. Look to budget around $1500.
Yup the sure do, all bulldogs have different kinds of tails, the fat english guy has a little stubby while the Olde bulldogge has more of a pointer.
Just like any dog the olde english bulldogge will respond to praise and repetition. Make the game fun, involve easy to identify patterns of I do X and I get Y... The dog is smart and not lazy unlike other bulldogs. Patience is key, sometimes the owners expect too much from the dog and need to chillout and enjoy the process of teaching. YouTube has millions of videos showing owners training dogs to do cool tricks, why not become an over enthusiastic trick trainer? Start with give the paw, then sit, roll over and move towards games that involve waiting and then fetching. Slowly add in obstacles and build things up. If you believe you can achieve.